OSAMASON
FC
Who is Lil O's music for?
O
My music is for everybody. If you just want to feel good or work out or go to sleep or if you're sad, it's for you.
FC
You've been working with ok for so long. What do you like about working with him?
O
He can just make stuff that I want without me having to tell him. He'll already have what I'm needing without me having to say, 'I need this type beat.' We think alike, but we're just in two different bodies with two different missions. But when we're together, we come together. It's one brain. It's kind of weird.
FC
Is it pretty hard to find a good collaborator like ok now that you've been making music for a while?
O
Yeah, it really is. A lot of people don't want to evolve, but ok is willing to evolve. He's willing to take the criticism, change the sound, and do different shit that the other producers wouldn't. That's why I fuck with him.
FC
Is there any good piece of advice or good feedback that ok has given you?
O
Nothing specific, but we have two different paths, so he does a lot of different shit that I don't do. He goes to a lot of different concerts that I might not listen to personally. He brings me to different concerts and shit and he just shows me, 'Yo, there's way more than just underground rock and roll, hip hop and shit like that. Come tap into this side, you feel me?'
FC
What do you love about your album art for Jump Out?
O
I love how colorful and vibrant it is. It just makes you feel good without you having to hear the music. I feel like it gives you a good idea of what's going on inside that album.
FC
What was the 'a-ha' moment that made you decide you want to take music seriously?
O
Somebody told me my mix was trash. I was stealing beats off YouTube [at the time], so I sent it back to the producer who I stole the beats from and he was like, 'Yeah, this is pretty good, but your mix sucked, bro.' I was like, 'Damn, all right.' It just made me want to get a computer and a mic and start recording for real and perfect my craft.
FC
Do you think you're more driven by wanting to get better, or are you more driven by wanting to prove people wrong?
O
It's 50/50. Of course I want to prove everybody wrong, but that's not the main thing leading me to do what I do. You feel me? I want to see myself be better as a person, always.
FC
How do you personally know when a song is done? Is it a feeling?
O
I feel like a song is never done, lowkey. I had songs before where I finished them and then I'm listening to it in the car and I'm like, 'Yo, I could have added this ad-lib or some shit.' But I'm too lazy to go back and re-edit songs and shit. So it's just like a fleeting thought in that moment.
FC
Do you learn to walk away when you get that feeling?
O
Yeah, I just stop. I got so much music on my phone. It's just so many phones. I tend to just stop listening to my music sometimes and throw a whole phone full of music away. Never to see it again. That's how I be forgetting about songs. I block 'em out and go make new shit. I'd rather go make some new shit than dwell on the old shit.
FC
Plus you have so much to say too, right?
O
Hell yeah. And I'm always feeling different. I be having crazy feelings. One second, I'm feeling happy. One second, I'm a little moody. But it's nothing ever specific that's just changing my mood. It's just how life is sometimes.
FC
Tell me about your writing process.
O
I don't write it at all. I'm not going to lie. I've never written a song before. I never wrote a hook down. I've never written a couple of bars and was like, save that. It's really mood-driven. I just feel like you got to say however you're feeling right now. Just say that shit now, however it comes out. You feel me? If you're just going back and reading over something, I don't feel like that is your true feeling.
FC
Do you care about legacy at all?
O
Yeah, I'm working on it. I'm working on it super hard. I'm not going to lie. That's the number one thing on my mind all this time: my legacy and how I'm going to be remembered by everybody.
FC
How do you want to be remembered by people?
O
As the goat, yo. I just want to make everybody feel good, no matter who it is. At least one song could just make you feel good, you feel me? And I want to be able to change your perspective on me. I'm a human, you feel me? I don't think a lot of people be realizing that or understanding that I'm m ore than just a rapper.
FC
How has it felt when people are quick to say that you're copying this thing or that thing?
O
It feels good. I mean, alright, when you first hear it, it's like, 'Why?' What's the reason? And then further down the line, I just had to realize that it's not bad being compared to good people. It could be different if I was being compared to horrible people or people who did awful shit, but y'all are comparing me to the best people who've ever done it. So it's not even a diss at the end of the day, really. If you look at it like that, who wouldn't want to be compared to the goats?
FC
People are always going to want to compare something to something.
O
Yeah, everything's going to get compared for the rest of life. Even if robots take over, they're going to start comparing shit.
FC
Are you afraid of robots taking over?
O
Lowkey. Hopefully I'm just not here to see it happen, but I don't want to go through it. It's going to be ugly. I don't fuck with robots. Yo. My robot vacuum cleaner just broke the other day. You know the ones that go across the floor? Shit just broke. So yeah, I'm really not fucking with robots right now.
FC
I'm wondering how did South Carolina shape you?
O
It shaped me a lot, man. I was there for a long time as a kid. I've grown up in a lot of places in South Carolina, not just Goose Creek specifically. Charleston, Moncks Corner, St. Stephen, just different places. I just feel like it all prepared me for life. It prepared me for the rough shit that's going to happen because life isn't always a perfect road. This shit get bumpy. So South Carolina helped motivate me to take on life. Just try to work on bettering yourself, you feel me? And just make that your main focus. If you start focusing on other people and thinking, 'Damn, you should have done this for me,' then you're going to get lost, bro. It is just life. You can't expect a lot from everybody, you feel me?
FC
Where was one of the first places you performed?
O
It was in New York. I completely got out of South Carolina for the music shit. I don't think South Carolina contributed anything to boosting the views or anything. I had to get out of there for it to start going crazy.
FC
So the Internet was really helpful for that.
O
Hell yeah. I was on the Internet all the time. I'm born in '03.
FC
Yeah, you've been an internet kid for almost your whole life.
O
Sometimes I talk to my friends though, and I'd be asking them, would I rather be making music back then? Every time period has its weird little moments in it.
FC
Say you're flying someone out to your hometown. What's on the schedule? What's there to show people in South Carolina?
O
Waffle House for sure. That's probably the first place we going to go. Waffle House at 3:00 AM in the morning. They got Church's Chicken. They don't have shit out here in LA, yo. I mean they have shit out here, but they don't have the good Southern shit. What else? I'd probably take 'em to the gun range too. They got a lot of outside gun ranges in South Carolina, so you can just go outside and shoot guns and shit and the laws aren't that strict. So yeah, Waffle House and a gun range. That's lit. We outside with no phones either.
FC
What's a little known fact about Carolina music?
O
Carolina music is kind of hard to understand. The accent is so heavy that a lot of people who're not from South Carolina can't really understand what they're saying. A lot of people say my music is hard to understand, but I feel like they be talking about the bass and shit. Once you get it, I feel like it's super fire. Super, super fire.
FC
Yeah, I mean, that's what people used to say about Atlanta music. You're going to learn.
O
I feel like with us it's a little bit different, though. We haven't had nobody really represent South Carolina with the accent and just the style and everything. Atlanta been having the representatives for a long ass time now, so they kind of get a pass, but I don't think we get that pass.
FC
You've talked about Speaker Knockerz as being an influence before. What was it about him that made it so fun to rep the Carolinas?
O
The sound, yo. He's the example. He's a completely different sound from the regular South Carolina sound. So it was just the way he was doing it. I found out about him when I was in sixth grade. Being a kid at the time and just hearing that shit was mind blowing, you feel me? He was from the state too, so it was crazy. Superstar.
FC
What does South Carolina do better than everyone else?
O
Cook. We got a lot of good food.
FC
Oh yeah? So what's some of your favorite foods?
O
My favorite food personally is pizza, but home cooked food from your mom and shit like white rice, collard greens, shit like that. My favorite dish from my mom is probably pork and beans and rice with pork chops. Fried pork chops, yeah.
FC
Do you know how to cook?
O
Hell no. I don't know how to cook it all. I don't know how to cook shit. All I know how to cook is breakfast shit. Eggs, bacon, pancakes. The simple shit. I know how to cook beans and rice if I got sweet with it. Iit might not be that good though. I'm not good at seasoning. I either overcook then under-season or undercook or over-season. It's either those two.
FC
Mom's touch is it.
O
My mama knows what she doing, man. She been here for a little minute, so I'm going to trust her for sure.
FC
Did you grow up dreaming about leaving South Carolina?
O
Yeah, once I got to a certain age I realized being here isn't going to get me nowhere in life at all, except probably a warehouse job and a regular apartment. I didn't realize it till late though. I was kind of stuck around my environment. It could have trapped me, but I didn't let it trap me. I feel like COVID changed a lot. I had to sit in the house and shit and it really introduced me to a lot of things.
FC
Where were you thinking of going?
O
ve there. But then I figured out that's not going to be the best route, for me at least. it was probably either New York or Cali. Nowhere else though.
FC
How did you land on a life in LA?
O
I just feel comfortable here. I'm super comfortable here. This kind of feels like my second home.
FC
What are some of your favorite places here now that you've been here for a while?
O
My house. The studio. I don't go out a lot. I don't go to the clubs. I don't party. I go bowling, though. Bowling's awesome. I only been to the bowling alleys in North Hollywood, but those are hard.
FC
What did you get with your first paycheck from making music?
O
Drip, straight drip. I went instantly on Grailed. Everything I had sitting in my cart, I ordered that shit. I regret it though because literally everything that I bought, I don't have that shit anymore. I had to though. It was like, 'Yo, I can do it now.' Why not? I was waiting for this moment.
FC
How'd it feel?
O
It didn't really feel like nothing. I'm not going to lie. I got everything, but I was like, 'This shit don't even fit me like that.' It feels good now, though, to buy what I want.
FC
What's on your TikTok feed?
O
A lot of me, I'm not going to lie. I be going viral for little shit like my sounds or whatever. So it'd just be a lot of me or a whole bunch of memes with my sounds behind it.
FC
So then what's a recent ridiculous or funny comment that you saw from a fan?
O
Yo, I had somebody say everything bad that happened to me but put "so tough" after it. He was like, 'The way he gets leaked is so tough. The way he flops is so tough.' He was talking shit so I was like keep talking shit, you still boosting my head up.
FC
What's a music trend that you can't stand?
O
Damn, the floating mic performance shit. Don't fuck with that shit at all, bro. And I don't fuck with it when people shoot a music video and one of the scenes is of them in the studio making a song. I don't need to see that. In this day and age, you shouldn't be doing that. But the live shit with the mic hanging out…where's the mic at? Where's it hanging from? It doesn't even make sense, bro. And you just got to stand there with the mic. You can't move around. You just got to look at the mic and just record. No, it's weird that it popped off.
FC
Is there anything you think your fans get wrong about you?
O
It's a lot of shit. I don't really express myself on the Internet a lot or tell my fans a lot about me no more. They get a lot of shit wrong about me.
FC
This is you protecting your peace a bit.
O
Yeah. It's crazy. They be making a lot of fake text messages from you, or Instagram messages. They be Photoshopping my name and shit and they be making me say the wildest shit. It is not even wild. It just be corny shit. Wild.
FC
What's the classic South Carolina sneaker? What does everyone have on?
O
Jordans for sure. Whatever Jordan comes out, that's the trend in South Carolina. If any Jordans comes out, you got to get that shit as soon as they come out and whoever got the best fit, they can post that shit on Facebook. I feel like that's why I wear Jordans so much though. 1s, 3s, 5s, all of them.
FC
What's the first sneaker that you bought with your own money?
O
Reverse He Got Game 13's, the black ones. I got the regular white ones for back to school. My mama bought me them, and then they dropped the reverse one. So I was like, 'I'm going to pay for them with my own money' because I had a job at the time. I was like a freshman in high school.
FC
What was the job?
O
Walmart.
FC
Oh, Walmart cut you that kind of paycheck?
O
Yeah. Facts.
FC
What's your style philosophy?
O
I don't really got one. I just be trying, man. I just be throwing shit on, and if I feel like somebody's going to be like, 'This is the hardest fit I've ever seen,' I go brazy. I don't really try too hard though. I don't got no rules though.
FC
So where's your favorite place in South Carolina for alone time?
O
Probably my grandfather's house. He stays in South Carolina where it's just a whole bunch of trees and dirt roads. He got a big ass house back there and he lives by himself. So I just go over there and spend a couple of weeks there.
FC
Favorite place to take a girl out on a date?
O
The movies. That's a good vibe, you feel me? Y'all go to the movies, you protect her. Y'all watch some little scary movies. She cuddle in the movie. Buy snacks, food, treat your girl right then go home.
FC
Did you have a favorite place or a park in Carolina to go hoop?
O
I haven't been there in years, but it's a place called Dogwood Park and that's where everybody used to go hoop. That's where everybody used to go to link at because they got a football field back there too.
FC
What's your superpower?
O
Being invincible. Yeah, I go invincible. Super easy.